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Today Rena Valentino is joining us to help navigate cosmic influences on personal growth and parenting—our soul map! Our enlightening conversation offers a deep dive into the "big three" – sun, moon, and rising signs – and how these celestial cornerstones craft our identities.
Rena has offered a generous 20% discount for her amazing and insightful astrology sessions to the listeners of the Raising Wild Hearts Podcast:
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relying on the moon for the first years of childhood, now forever right. Because even here as adults, as I was speaking to like, we also need that moon to be nurtured, but especially as children, especially those first like formative childhood years through age seven and even beyond, right, but especially in those first few formative years to really feel like they have that safety and security and being nurtured and loved and seen in the way that they can feel so safe to then be able to bloom.
Speaker 2:Welcome, revolutionary Mama, to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. I'm Ryan Watkin, educator, mama of Three, revelate Heart and Passionate Soul, on a Mission to empower and inspire you.
Speaker 2:Here we'll explore psychology, spirituality, parenthood and the intersection where they all come together. We'll discover how challenges can be fertile soil for growth and that even in the messy middle of motherhood, we can find magic in the mundane. Join me on my own personal journey as I talk to experts and share resources on education, creativity, self-care, family, culture and more. I believe we can change the world by starting at home, in our own minds and hearts, and that when we do, we'll be passing down the most important legacy there is healing and so it is. Hey friends, welcome back to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. I am really excited for today's episode. I am speaking with Rena Valentino today.
Speaker 2:Rena is an alignment coach who is passionate about empowering other women to fully step into their true potential with confidence and clarity, through the tool of astrology and understanding their unique soul blueprint. Her continual evolution of life through navigating motherhood, losses, relationships, challenges and transitions has taken her through many learnings, trainings and layers of healing that she brings from her experience and wisdom gained to others. Ultimately, rena says it's about remembering and coming back to our true self within in order to fully shine our light, to live a life of inspiration for ourselves and also positively impact others. Rena is such a powerhouse, you guys. We dove into my astrological chart a little bit when I recorded this episode the day before she had done a natal chart reading for me and I got so much clarity from a 45 minute session Actually we went a few minutes over because we were talking but there was just so much clarity and so much validation that comes from understanding the way the cosmos were aligned, that when we were born, when we came into this life and Rena has graciously offered 20% off to the listeners of the Raising Wild Hearts podcast so you can click the link down below to get that discount for a one-off reading with Rena and on this episode we cover so much.
Speaker 2:We talk about what astrology is, why it's a good self-discovery tool. We talk about the big three, which is the sun, the moon and the rising. We talk about why some people don't believe in astrology. We talk about us having the power within to ultimately heal and manifest the life that we want. We talk about children's natal charts and so much more. I'm really excited to share this conversation with you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Let's dive in, rena. Welcome to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I am honored to be here, Ryan. Thank you for the invitation. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so excited to have you and I'm so excited to dive into astrology. It's something that I've just like dabbled in throughout the years and I've always found like solace and answers when I've needed them, and so it's been a tool that's really important in my life, and you and I did a natal chart reading for me yesterday. You did a reading for me and it was so powerful. We had like a hard stop time and we would just like kept going a few minutes and I didn't wanna stop because it was just, it was so powerful, and you have a way of explaining things that make it so common sense to me and just so easy. And so thank you for that. And with all that, I wanna start just like a broad overview, maybe even what is astrology and why is it a really great tool for us to get to know ourselves?
Speaker 1:Yes, thank you. Well, first of all, thank you, I appreciate your words there. We always just still need to be validated. So I appreciate that my Virgo and Mercury, or my son and Mercury and Virgo, appreciate that very much.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, astrology I mean it is an ancient tool, right, like at least over 5,000 years old, used as an ancient tool of wisdom. It literally provides us the blueprint of our soul. So, as we were talking about yesterday when I had opened up to dive into your natal chart with you, it comes that statement of the as above, so below, so literally the energies of the celestial bodies, the sun, the moon, the stars, the planets, comets, asteroids, everything carries an energy and the moment we took our first breath here in this life, those energies imprinted above onto our soul and we can come into what we spoke about yesterday as well. As our soul contract came in exactly at that time because we were called right, our soul contracted to have those exact energies that we were going to carry in this life to fulfill our purpose, our lessons, everything that we're here for souls, evolution and journey in this lifetime. So it literally is a soul's blueprint and I think that's the piece, as long as we look at it as a tool, right, it's not a belief system, it's not a religion. I think those are some of those myths of I don't believe it or I can't believe it because of X, y and Z religion, et cetera, et cetera. It's a tool and we have so many different tools at our disposal that we have been given from these ancient wisdoms, ancient cultures that saw the reflection and the patterns that affected us here in the 3D on the planet. So again, the as above, so below, and that goes into the universal law of correspondence, that everything is reflected from consciousness of a reality. So everything is connected, everything is reflection of our external consciousness. And so, yes, I mean I'm kind of diving into a little bit more detail here but yeah, looking at it as a tool, and it's such a tool to be able to become more self-aware, at the end of the day we have the wisdom, we hold the wisdom with it, right?
Speaker 1:But life, beliefs, projections, societal standards, trauma, limitations, all of those things start piling up onto us and we forget, we become so misaligned with ourselves that really coming back to like your soul's blueprint is like a coming home. And that's how I look at it. It's a remembering we have, like our biggest human disease is forgetting, is amnesia, because that's also our soul's purpose. We knew everything the moment we came in. There's no point of living our human existence, because it is our journey to come back to remembering, and I feel like the natal chart just really gives us that blueprint and like a permission slip of saying, oh yes, this is my light, oh yes, these are my gifts, and also showing the wounds too. Right, like so being able to be aware.
Speaker 1:And it's not a permission slip to slip into those low octaves either, of like, for example, like oh well, my, my mercury is an area, so I'm just going to fire off whatever I want to say.
Speaker 1:Right, once you have this knowledge, you have a self-awareness of how do I use this to the higher octave, rather than using that as an excuse to be in the lower octave. And when I speak to higher and lower octaves, I just want to be able to explain that the higher octave is that more like positive, right, the light, where then the lower octave is more of the shadow side, those pieces that come from like fear or insecurities, and all of that because we live in a world of duality. So we always have the light. We always have the dark. Not saying that you're going to always be perfect and in that higher octave or light, right, but we at least have self-awareness. And the moment you know that, then it gives you choice. And how do you want to act it out? Because that's the only thing we can control. Right Is how we act, how we respond.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that kind of gives a full astrology and also how to be able to use it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great and there's so many places I want to go because just in that explanation alone, like there's so many things to unpack and I'm so curious about so much.
Speaker 2:But I want to start with. You said something to the effect of, like you have what's you already have in you, what you need to heal, and you said that yesterday at the very beginning of the natal chart reading. You did with me, and whenever a teacher says to me that I have the power, that I have the sovereignty, that I have everything I need in this little bubble of mine, like it just it makes me trust. Like I just trust because nobody's selling me like a three step process and nobody's like marketing and putting anything on it because it's not sexy and it's not sellable that we have the power within us. However, I really feel like this has been a tool. There were so many, like you said, there were so many moments yesterday where I just felt so seen and heard and validated of, like yes, this is my experience and, oh my God, it feels so good to have that validation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes yes, I think that's the biggest piece too. It's kind of that like I said it as a permission slip, but it's that validation of being seen, of like. Oh yes, this isn't a piece of me that should be diminished or quiet, because maybe childhood trauma said you're, Leo rising, for example, and I'm sorry I'm throwing into your chart a little bit, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:You need to be quiet or you know, don't be so loud or don't be so showy or don't, and then you diminish that, even though that inner self is that inner desire and it's a knowing, and so it really is that permission slip of okay, I wasn't wrong in how I was feeling and I've suppressed it, which means then we're not living in our true authenticity and then we're not in alignment with ourselves. So, yes, it's the validation and it's being seen, because I think that's the end of the day, like again, like how we kind of been started. That's what we really wanna be as humans. We want to be seen, we want to be validated and we wanna be loved and heard.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, I love it. So I like yesterday you asked like, do you have any experience with astrology? I was like, well, I know my sun, moon and rising. And I know some people will be like, what's a moon and rising and cause? I feel like the most common one, like if you flip open a magazine or the paper or whatever, you see your sun sign there and so can you unpack for us I loved your metaphor with like the house and the curb appeal and that. So can you unpack for us the sun, what it means, the moon what it means, and then the rising what it means, in no particular order, just whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep, yep, absolutely, and, yes, you're correct, Like most people, I think, are really astrology to number one. Their sun sign, because that's everyone can know that because of just your birth date is then your sun sign, right? So, like I'm September 7th birth date, so I'm a Virgo, so, but then there's so many other placements in your charts and energies that sometimes that sun, yes, it's there. However, that's when some people are like, well, I don't really feel that as much. Well, there's so many different variables of why, and the rising the sun and the moon, those are called in astrology like the big three. So I feel like astrology and some of those terms are becoming a little bit more mainstream or known, but we'll go over those big threes. But then again, like I was saying, like there's so many more energies and depending on the placements and aspects in your chart of how you actually relate to those, so, yes, so we'll start with rising, because that is your outward expression. So the rising sign is literally the sign, the zodiac signs we have the 12 zodiac signs and it was the sign that was rising in the Eastern horizon the moment you took your first breath. So it literally is the way that you greeted the world and the world greeted you, and that is literally our rising sign. It's our handshake, if you will. So it is our outward expression. It is how people first perceive you on that first expression. And it's also a little bit more of our lens, of how we also perceive others as well and how we perceive the world I guess not others, but the world around us. So when I was giving, I was giving an analogy in my readings and I gave that to you as well.
Speaker 1:As like houses, so the rising sign is like the curb appeal. It is when you drive up to a house and you can tell the characteristics of the house just by that first impression. You know how is the long landscaped, or is it landscaped, or is it cozy and charming, or is it new designed and you know a little bit more cold, or is it super warm and inviting, right? So that rising sign is literally like that first impression. And then we move into the sun sign. So the sun sign people will only really get to know that sun sign if they actually engage with the person, right? And you start bringing them in.
Speaker 1:So that is like the invitation into the home, into the kitchen where you sit down with, like the cup of coffee or the tea and you start picking up on what really drives them and how they shine and the nuances of, okay, the details around you know, how are they organized? Do items have places? Do, maybe it's not, maybe it's a little bit more scattered and being able to start, like speaking with them, maybe they're a little bit more closed off than the outward expression showed, right, and so that's the sun sign. Where it's that life force, vitality, how you shine, and more of the conscious, like the conscious ego of self, is the sun sign. And do you want me to go into yours?
Speaker 1:I said okay, so you're well. We'll start with your rising sign. So your rising sign is Leo, right, and so it is that affection, like affectionate, courageous leader, heartfelt leader, that needs to also be seen and like, almost like on stage, but not in a. Look at me, look at me. Right Again, we go into higher or lower octaves, but more in the higher octave way it is, look at me to be seen and inspire all of the others around of what can be. And so it's that leadership. It's very much of a leadership type. Look at me roll out the red carpet because I have something to show. So that is the rising sign and how people perceive you.
Speaker 1:Most likely, if you allow that to be seen right, then the sun sign, as I was saying, is, once people start to get to know you, it is in Aquarius, and so Aquarius is very unique. Right, it's the rebel, it's the unconventional. Everyone else is going left, you're gonna take a hard. Right, you need to be unique in the way you shine and more progressive. Right Like it's, aquarius is for humanity, it is progressive.
Speaker 1:It is even like it's also the sign of astrology, because it's like, yes, there's the futuristic and other planets and outer space, and Aquarius needs space. That's the other thing too. It's very intellectual and heady, it's an air sign and so it's very, almost like it's the genius of the zodiac, because it's a lot of intellectual thought. So give me space and let me process and think this through rather than feel it through. And that is the yeah, that is the sun sign, and then, relating it to you, with Aquarius that we spoke to a little bit about. And then, if we're sticking to the analogy of the house, the moon not everyone gets to see, right, just like a bedroom. So the moon.
Speaker 2:The basement where you put all this stuff that you don't want everyone to see.
Speaker 1:Potentially it's the unconscious. I would say it's the bedroom, because it's going to be how you open up to the most intimate, in the most intimate ways, as in with yourself, so relationships itself and also in relation to intimate relationships. So it doesn't have to be romantic, though right, but it is. You're only going to show that moon. It's more of the subconscious, unconscious, emotional, non-negotiable needs to feel safe and secure and nurtured. And so that moon I have really come into. I have an Aquarius moon, understanding that more, because that is how, number one, we can reparent ourselves and, number two, have the most intimate relationship with ourselves. Truly allowing ourselves to be seen by ourselves is like the most act of self-love I feel like I have experienced to come through of not pushing it down, not hiding it and allowing myself to fully embrace my moon and then being able to communicate those needs to your intimate relationships. So if that's your partner, your spouse and even those close and around you.
Speaker 1:So your moon is in Sagittarius, as we were speaking to, and I will also say, before we get into Sagittarius moon, I had a teacher once say the moon is what it, and we'll get into this with talking about kids, but for ourselves as children, the moon is what we needed to feel safe and secure and nurtured. And if we did not have those things and be seen with the moon and needs that we needed, it is then what we go to therapy for as adults. So to me it is really about, like, once we get to know our moon, we can get to know ourselves and heal those inner selves of being seen and have that intimate relationship with self and also be able to reparent ourselves, because now as adults, right, we can say all we want to like oh, my childhood, I didn't get this that well. It's not about blaming, right, because our parents could only parent as conscious as they were. So now we can take the responsibility as adults and, with this awareness, reparent what we are actually needing.
Speaker 1:So, for example, your moon is in Sagittarius. Like you needed freedom and space to be able to explore and adventure and experience, to gain your own wisdom through exploration and adventure, and that's what you still need. But as a child, if you didn't get that, for example, and it was more suppressed, you might have felt stifled and not completely seen, and so then you might have almost like taken it to, like I just need to. You know you rebelled a little bit more because you actually were needing that freedom. You're needing someone your parents to allow you and foster that within you, of having that space and freedom. So yeah, Wow.
Speaker 2:So I resonate deeply personally with all of it and also like, if you've ever looked at a natal chart, it is so, it's so overwhelming, I know not for you, reena, but for a person who doesn't know how to read it. It's like whoa, there's so much more into it. So, you know, this is just, like you said, kind of scratching the surface, which I think is really interesting, because there's all sorts of other things that are playing behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, yes, yes, and I will say this too yes. So all of the different. If you opened up and somebody, you saw your natal chart. Right, it's always going to be cut up in the 12 houses with the 12 different signs representing each. And then you're going to see all these other little what's called glyphs and those are the placements of the planets and the luminaries, et cetera. And when I first had my first reading and the astrologer gave me this, I yeah, it looked, I'm like I don't understand what just happened. But let's see, it was six, seven years after and all of a sudden, astrology clicked with me to deep dive into it. And now it's like, oh, yeah, okay, and you can interpret these energies and patterns? Yeah, Right.
Speaker 2:So it's like any other skill that you learn, you can learn to read the charts. So this brings me into it. Thank you so much for breaking down my rising and sun and moon. I feel I mean just this podcast alone, like the rising Leo going like hey guys, I've got something to say now. You know, it's all just like deeply resonant. So I know the question that many parents are thinking now, because I'm thinking it is like how do I get my child's chart, like you know, read? Basically, how do we figure out what our kids need? And then two like it makes me curious about is there a line to cross? Like if I know my daughter has a moon and da, da, da and I over give that thing that I think she needs. Like where's the line of like letting our kids have their journey and then having this as a tool to coexist with them and maybe give them space and freedom where they needed, or guidance or whatever it might be?
Speaker 1:Yeah, nope, that is a great question because.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, I guess, to back it up, how to get your your child's chart so you can go to anything like astrocom, astro cafe. I mean, you can get, you can pull your chart for free and you can pull your child's chart. All you have to know is your date of birth, your time of birth which is sometimes a little bit more challenging if it's not on your birth certificate but time of birth and location of birth. So city, state, country. So if you have those three things right, because it's the exact time, the exact location of what was above, then you're able to pull your chart.
Speaker 1:Now, like what we spoke to, interpreting the chart, it because it's a language, it's the language of the stars, and so that piece of it, then you would want to go to an astrologer. Now, certain places, like Astro cafe, like I had mentioned, they do have the interpretations. However, I have really realized, with reading right, like that might be great as a starting point, but it's so general that it doesn't take into account a human as in, like, living experiences and being able to actually speak and kind of unravel and understand what those patterns or interpretations might actually mean for that person. So you could start there. However, I would rely on an astrologer so that I offer ratings for individuals and also needle chart ratings for children.
Speaker 1:Now, going into the next piece of what is the line? Yes, that is a great question, because we don't want to come with our own interpretations and project what those beliefs are on our children. Right, because then we're at the same issue, in a way, of what we're not wanting to do. We're wanting to be able to be, number one, self aware of ourselves. So I feel like, first, to be able to do this with your children, you need to be self aware of yourself and what your own design is, to ensure your understanding then how that might be interacting with theirs. Right, and can I say two, one thing Like.
Speaker 2:so sometimes I'm like projection, projection and I have to like stop and unpack it. So I'm going to like, let's unpack it and then let's keep going with that thought because I love this, this train that we're on. So projection is when and jump in and correct me where I'm wrong or, like you know, tweak it a little projection is when our ideas or beliefs or experiences are playing out in our external lives. So if I'm seeing my child and I'm saying, oh, they're just needing more love and affection, maybe that could be our unresolved, unknown subconscious stuff that we're just playing out like a movie in front of us. To like, is it to get our attention? Is it always subconscious, like, let's unpack that a teeny bit?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean what you were saying like. I mean, I feel like that is like beautifully said. So our projections are from our own lenses, our own lenses of trauma or limitations or limiting beliefs, or our own, our own identity, right, because that creates all of those things, our own feelings and emotions with it. So, understanding, for example, we know, like, take it to you your moon being in a sedge, right, if you were saying you know exactly what that means for your child, then if it was their moon in that, for example, but you might be coming with your own interpretations, right? So that would be potentially like projecting what your own interpretations of what freedom means and what space means and exploration means, where it might be something completely different and in their journey. So there is that piece of making sure we're not doing the same thing, of trying to like pigeonhole them into something Instead, havi, and did that answer, I guess, on the piece of projecting, totally Okay, perfect, the piece is having this almost like in your back pocket, right, so you can use it as a tool when needed. But let them evolve and explore. So, number one again, the self-awareness of self, right, because then we can understand like, oh, okay, some of my higher octaves or lower octaves and some of these different areas might be a little, for example, controlling or trying to control the outcome of something. So if you're number one for self-aware for yourself and how things can play out, and then having the design of your children and seeing where the most important pieces is number one the moon, just because of what I had shared earlier, for them to feel safe and seen and nurtured, they really are like relying on the moon for the first years of childhood, now, forever right. Because even here as adults, as I was speaking to like, we also need that new moon to be nurtured, but especially as children, especially those first like formative childhood years through age seven and even beyond right, but especially in those first few formative years to really feel like they have that safety and security and being nurtured and loved and seen in the way that they can feel so safe to then be able to bloom into like their sun sign. The sun sign is more of ego, right, so we don't really come into that until a little bit more of adolescence that 11, 12, 13, I mean obviously depending on the child's development we don't really come into that conscious ego until we start coming into more of that egocentric timeframe, right, and which is like kind of that adolescence where it's self-centered, all about me. That is more of that ego sun.
Speaker 1:Before that the child is really acting out their moon and their rising sign. So understanding their rising sign too because that's the personality that they're really outwardly showcasing is the rising sign, and so making sure that's fostered in the way. So, for example, yours is Leo, like did yours get shut down a little bit? Did it get suppressed? If it did, then you might have like pulled back on how you actually needed to be able to self-express, especially with that Leo it's all about self-expression, and so then that caused potentially like limiting beliefs and trauma within, but then you didn't feel as safe and secure to be seen right.
Speaker 1:And so being able to be aware of our child's rising and moon signs especially not to project and tell them what they need to be or really like putting that on them, but being able to see how they're unfolding in those ways and knowing that those are important pieces, like oh, that is needing to be like, for example, if we knew you as a child with the Leo, like okay, her wanting to perform for us here in the living room. We're needing to be able to let her do that. However, that looks for her. We're needing to make sure Ryan is performing and showing up.
Speaker 2:It was very much performing in the living room. Hey everybody, I'm putting on a show with the microphone and the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I was just gonna say that I'm like a little boombox with the microphone, here's my karaoke, or whatever. And if, instead, your parents didn't know that, right, like they might say, stop, you're interrupting our news or you are, and they're like pushing you to your room, take it to your room, or take it, and you're not being seen for how you're meant to express. Now, had your parents been aware of your Leo rising and they knew that's a piece that needs to be seen, they could celebrate that a little bit more and foster it. No, obviously you have to also, like you know, not at all hours of the night or whatever else, but being able to be conscious of it, to make sure that the gifts that your children are here with are not to be diminished, not to be suppressed, and to make sure you have the space and freedom to really be able to express those as needed and fostered so that they can unfold organically for the child. Not because I'm telling you to perform. I think that's the big difference, right.
Speaker 2:Totally everybody's online right now looking up all their kids' moon and rising.
Speaker 2:To think you know, because I know at one point I had it pulled up but I now have forgotten, so I need to. I'm curious about what they are because I have a tricky child. I have a child that I have karma with, let's just put it that way. I won't name any names, but this child and I, for whatever reason, lots of different reasons we butt heads. There's lots of triggers there. There's this push and pull, there's a power struggle, there's so much dynamics and so for me to know with this child perhaps their rising is whatever, like you know, and I can at least have that validation that I have when I hear my own of like okay, that makes sense For me. Just knowing a little bit of a background explanation is so helpful to just stay calm, not make it about me, and let that child and all my children really live out who they are, because I think sometimes as parents, we're like so busy trying to get our kids to be somebody that we're forgetting them to let them be who they are.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, all of that, all of that and I just lost my train of thought of where I was going with that, but everything you just said, absolutely it. Also that was the piece I was thinking is being able to see the others in your family, whether that is child or partner or whoever else, even like siblings or whatever else, understanding their chart, just like. When you're understanding your chart, right, you can have so much more compassion with yourself. Number one, so when you're understanding your own chart, you can see the areas of like. Oh, this aspect does create, kind of like what I had said before, maybe a little bit more sense of like, need of control. And so when I find myself coming back to those patterns, kind of those shadows, that shadow self, I'm able to accept them fully with more grace and compassion than being critical about myself, because, again, it's not the excuse to say, well, that's just part of my chart and so I can be as controlling as I want, right. But being able to accept that part about yourself without trying to reject it and that's the biggest piece about like healing is accepting yourself fully, those shadows and all. And so that's also, then, in relation with others too, right, like seeing their areas and their you know the strengths and the gifts that they have to really be able to foster, but also some of those parts of them that are a little bit more challenging and the growth areas. You can come at that with so much more compassion and grace for them and being able to help again with your children, being able to like, help them see that you know the shadow sides are not something to you know be judgmental or critical on, but you can help them, kind of it's a growth opportunity for them, for you to be able to kind of almost like nurture the higher octaves of it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:So if we take it to that example of like your Leo rising right, if you were my child and you were wanting to self-express, then I want to make sure I fostered that.
Speaker 1:However, if you kept coming into this like, look at me, look at me, it's all about me and it was, you know, coming into a little bit more of like the shadow sides of it, you know I can at least like, try to like nurture yes, I want you to self-express. And how do you do that in almost like a service for others to like show how inspiring and what a leader you can be, rather than being so super like egotistical about it, if that makes sense. So, being able to be aware of your children's nail charts especially, you're able to also I don't want to say coach them right, but like being able to somewhat yeah, like kind of softly nurturing them to the higher areas of like, where their true potential is, but again with gentleness, because we also need to allow the space for them to come through their own soul journey. And what are the lessons that they need to learn too in some of those Right?
Speaker 2:right, I love that. So I have a billion more questions. We'll have to do this again, but as we start to wrap up, let's talk a little bit about the shadow side of things. Is there a way to best use astrology to like sift through those like dark, shadowy things? Cause I think that might be for a lot of people, like the place, obviously, where we don't want to look and we don't even know we don't want to look Like we're. Some of us might be like shadow, what's that? I don't have that and like I've done some work and know now that there are some like dark parts of me and there are things and I guess that I've rejected, and so we all have that right, and is that where what the shadow comes from? Is, like us rejecting that part of ourselves and then forgetting it and then it pops up later, and then how can we best use our chart maybe to sift through some of that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It is exactly that. So right, how I'd explained it before everything we live in a love of world of duality, right? So the universe of duality that there is always the opposite, the polar opposites. So we have the light, we have the dark, we have the day, we have the night, right, all of the opposites that we have. And so each energy also has that. And so there's those higher octaves, there's those lower octaves, and so the shadow side, those lower octaves are the pieces, like you had said, they're more of those shadows that are growth areas.
Speaker 1:But if we don't want to even face them and we want to reject them which is usually what?
Speaker 1:Because we're so self critical on ourselves and that we're not accepting ourselves fully of the full that, yes, we have the light, because the light can't exist without the dark, right, but if we try to pretend that that dark isn't there and we're rejecting, rejecting, tucking them away, not looking at them, they're going to rear their ugly heads because it'll be ugly.
Speaker 1:Then, when they show up to say I'm still here, so really being able to accept fully and say, yeah, that is, I do hold that. I hold the light part of it and I also hold the darker part of it and facing it more with compassion and then, yeah, being able to see. What instances do these shadows come up? For me, usually it's going to be in time of stress or tension or fear or insecurity, right when, when you're in more of the light, higher, it's because you're in the higher octaves the love, the pureness, the joy, the all of all of those. It always kind of comes back to the roots of love or fear, and so you're usually acting out those shadows, whether consciously or unconsciously, when you're in a space of fear, of lack of scarcity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so recently I had an experience in it was like a few weeks back, maybe a month ago, and I was driving a few different times I think it was three times and I was driving and just like kind of in like my head and trying to just get from point A to point B, and I was like a little stressed out, or whatever we want to call that, and I ended up like cutting off pedestrians like multiple times in the same week.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't just that, though. It was my immediate reaction of like oh my God, I'm so sorry, so apologetic, and but the pedestrians all got angry and were visibly flipping me off and going like like I could see their anger, and I was like whoa, I think by the third time it happened, I was like, okay, something's here for me, and I think that's like a good example sometimes of what the universe puts in our way to like little things to go hey, how about this? Hey, how about that? And what I realized after doing a better reflection is that my immediate reaction was to go like F you, you don't know me, I'm so good to pedestrians, I stop all the time, you know like my immediate reaction was to get like angry and like rageful and vengeful at them, but I saw them doing that to me and so, anyway, it was like this whole process of just becoming aware of, like, even the little things like that that happen in our daily lives, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely so. It's so number one. Yes, so much there, because, number one, it's like what you were saying. You're seeing it a few times. It's like okay, here's the lesson, thank you, universe. What am I? How is this serving me? You know not, though, why is this happening to me, but how is this serving me? And so then being able to see like okay, number one, you can't control their reactions, right, you can only control yours. And then seeing like okay, how, how many times am I cutting people off?
Speaker 1:But then back, you know back stepping and apologizing over a pet apologetically, and then say like reflecting, where else does this show up in my life that I'm doing the same sort of pattern or behavior that you're needing to? Like that the universe was like holding that mirror up for you, saying look at where you are maybe taking an action impacting others negatively, and then backtracking and being over super apologetic about it. So being able to like yeah, lift those little lessons. And then you reflect it Like how is it showing up in my life?
Speaker 1:The other thing too, just because I find myself doing this, like the moment we judge something or someone else, or there's a trigger right, like those pedestrians that are like, ah, you, and like throwing you the, the bird, like the moment, like that triggers you to like what you were saying. Your first reaction wanted to be Number one. I always have to ask like because we hold that within us too, right, the stuff that, like triggers us, the stuff that we don't like, the stuff that we want to cancel or call toxic and push out of our lives. It's because we also hold that and so it's like okay, when have I done that? Because I can guarantee there's plenty of times I have this lesson too, especially when I'm driving. I think the driving is like the most like, because we're so like unconsciously driving, and when I'm conscious of it and someone you know pulls in front of me or whatever, I can either react in an upset mad way or I'm like okay, I've done that before too.
Speaker 2:Yep Driving is such a good example, especially if you live in South Florida. So all you South Floridians like you get it. Yes, are you South Florida? Yeah, yeah, I'm in Boca, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I wasn't aware. Yep, south Florida. Oh my goodness, that's a whole other. I feel like that's a whole other lesson.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes it is, and thank you for reflecting that back to me, because, even though, like, I had sifted through some of it and this is such a good example of why a great coach, astrologer, mentor, guide, facilitator is a wonderful tool to have in your toolbox because you're not giving me the answer, you're not saying, well, I know what you need to do. You're just reflecting back to me what I said, with some wisdom and insight from your perspective, and it helped me to see it even more clearly, even though I had already like cleared it up and I was like, yeah, I'm pretty clear on that. Like you even helped give more insight. And so thank you, and that's such a testament to the work you do. I mean truly like thank you so much.
Speaker 2:You are amazing at what you do and I'm so excited that I'm able to share this conversation with the listeners and we'll have to definitely do like a follow up, because I feel like there's so much to dive into here. So, if you have questions for Rena actually it would be good. I'm just going to shout it out right now you can email me at hello, at raisingwelldheartspodcastcom, and maybe we'll have Rena on again if she's willing to come and share her insight with us. And then, before we get into the three questions that I ask everybody at the end, how can we find you and follow your work?
Speaker 1:Yes, well, thank you so much and I love that. It was like a full circle conversation. Again, coming back to, we all hold the wisdom within, and how I use like astrology with coaching is using it in the lens of astrology. But, yeah, it's really about holding that mirror up and being able to show some of the blind spots, because we all have blind spots that we don't want to look at or we aren't even aware of. So that is what I'm most passionate about and, yeah, I'm most active on Instagram, so you can find me at rena r-e-n-a, underscore Valentino, my last name, underscore coaching, and that's how I'm most active. I respond and engage with any of my communities, so send me a DM if you have any questions, and I also have. You know it's the whole link in the bio, but it does hold everything there, from one off sessions to also if you want to dive deeper into one on one coaching with me as well.
Speaker 2:Amazing. Thank you so much. So now I'll ask you the three questions that I ask everybody at the end of the interview, and the first one is what's bringing you joy today?
Speaker 1:This. I love curious conversations that just evolve into the magic. I think I had even shared that with you of like, that's my favorite favorite. So, yeah, it's the connection. I love connecting with people and diving deeper. I want to go deep with people.
Speaker 2:Yes, me too. As you know from my chart, I was telling my husband last night. I was like yep. The astrologer said that I'm just like all depth with everything. He's like yes, I know, is there more? I'm like yes, there's more, but it's late, so let's go to bed. There's a lot more. And then the next question is what, if anything, are you reading?
Speaker 1:Ooh, I have constant books that are just constantly open, so let's see what's next to me. I have my transits, so that's just more of an astrology like really deep diving into that. I have my constant like effort-toly books that are like I come back to whenever I feel like I'm ready for like more nuggets, but it's not a like constant to continue a read, and I just finished. One of my mentors had published and authored a book Ask and Deliver. My background is marketing, and so I see, though, how translatable it is of really being able to deliver to your audience, to your clients, right, but needing to know what their needs are first. So I have quite a few. I'm kind of always diving into books, but they're not always completely finished.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I roll too, eckhart Tolle. A new Earth is like one that I keep typically at my bedside and just flip to it and just let whatever it goes to land Like, and it's always exactly what I needed 100%.
Speaker 1:That's exactly. That is exactly the book I have had and it's been open for the last decade and I had to restart it again just because grasping the concepts and then now the concepts landing and being like, oh I'm living these out, where it just lands in a whole new way and so I feel like that's a big piece. I never used to be a book re-reader. However, some of these books like Untethered Soul or Transubstacity I'm coming back to, because they just land in such a different way and you pull out new nuggets that hadn't landed the same way before.
Speaker 2:Yes, Untethered Soul is one that I mentioned way back in the beginning of the season. I loved that one, but Transubstacity I've never heard of, so that's on my list now, which I'm really excited about. Yeah, transubstacity.
Speaker 1:I've read through it that was probably five years ago and now I'm like oh, I feel like I'm at the point that I'm like oh yeah, I'm a whole different person, shed layers, et cetera. Let's reread it again. So I'm just kind of have been carrying it with me to dive back into it again.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Yeah, I think grasping something intellectually or logically, or even from a feeling state is one thing, but integration and walking the talk is always something that I am conscious of not even trying to do. Just yet embodiment. Living it, living it for sure. All right. And the last question I have for you is who or what has taught you the most?
Speaker 1:We have so many teachers right Again, the teachers, the lessons that are reflecting, but we have the inner, I'm going to say my eldest daughter, because I have two daughters One is almost 16, and one is four, turning five. I am a completely different mother to each of them because of my awareness and consciousness. However, just understanding my eldest chart, I see so much karma together, right, and so I'm aware of it. I give myself more compassion because I realize we both signed up for this journey. I can do it, though in a self-aware way. Obviously, again, it's my back pocket. I'm not putting anything on her. Her soul needs to evolve with it.
Speaker 1:However, it is a constant learning of surrendering and letting go, and she has been my biggest teacher. Yeah, she continues to be. It's interesting, both my daughters in different ways, but even becoming and you're a mom becoming a mother to her. I was a younger, age 23, and I will always say she taught me what unconditional love is, understanding that first child, and what that unconditional love means, and I continually am learning that through our relationship, because I can't force outcomes, I can't control the outcomes of where our relationship is now, but I am surrendering, I'm letting go, I'm holding hope for the future. And it is about the unconditional love, because even if she's not doing what I'm wanting or what makes me feel good or gives me value, I unconditionally love her, no matter what, and that has been the constant teacher for me, so yeah, so good I'm crying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so good, like when I see new parents and I could be considered as a new parent. My kids are two, seven and nine but when I see parents, I just like on playgrounds or wherever, even with little babies in the stroller. It's so different having an infant and then having a sovereign being grow into their own authority under your guidance or home or watch, because it's like I don't know, like shit's getting real in our house. I'm starting to realize whoa, these humans are fierce, like they are fierce and they are driven and they want to be sovereign and they are.
Speaker 1:So it's wild to actually surrender that and that's a daily, minute-by-minute practice for me 100%, 100% and realizing, yeah, they are their own individual and their own human on their own soul journey and the best we can do is they are not ours, they are not our property. They are ours to guide and protect and make sure they have a safe place to be able to fully evolve into their fullest selves. But that's tough and that takes a lot of awareness of allowing that to be and what that all means. And constantly, even when I think I have it, I'm like, oh no, here's that mirror again showing me. I'm trying to control it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Ah, Reena, thank you so much for showing up and shining your light and sharing your wisdom. It's been such an amazing conversation. Thank you, yes thank you, ryan.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it and I love what you're doing too, so I'm here to cheer on other everyone that's shining their light, but especially female leaders and trailblazers that are wanting to live their life by their own design and fostering that for their children too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.