What does it truly mean to serve others while honoring oneself? This question guides my heartfelt exchange with Tessia Watson— Author of Rejuvenated Mums Make Happy Kids. Tessia is also a spiritual teacher and entrepreneur and we dive deep into the nuances of individuation through the motherhood journey.
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What does it truly mean to serve others while honoring oneself? This question guides my heartfelt exchange with Tessia Watson— Author of Rejuvenated Mums Make Happy Kids. Tessia is also a spiritual teacher and entrepreneur and we dive deep into the nuances of individuation through the motherhood journey.
If you feel inspired please consider sharing this episode with a friend, writing a 5⭐️ review or becoming a Raising Wild Hearts Member here!
If you're not yourself happy, full of energy, balance, calm and peace, how are you going to ensure that your children will thrive or be happy? It's the same thing. It's you setting an example. When you do that. Your children learn from that. They learn that it's so important as well to care for oneself, and it's something that they will themselves incorporate in their way of life.
Speaker 2:Welcome, revolutionary Mama, to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. I'm Ryan Watkin, educator, mom of three, revel at heart and passionate soul, on a mission to empower and inspire you.
Speaker 2:Here we'll explore psychology, spirituality, parenthood and the intersection where they all come together. We'll discover how challenges can be fertile soil for growth and that even in the messy middle of motherhood, we can find magic in the mundane. Join me on my own personal journey as I talk to experts and share resources on education, creativity, self-care, family, culture and more. I believe we can change the world by starting at home, in our own minds and hearts, and that when we do, we'll be passing down the most important legacy there is Healing, and so it is. Hi, friends, welcome back to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. Thanks for showing up again. I love meeting like this. It's been super fun. I've got another amazing interview to share with you today. I am talking to Tessia Watson.
Speaker 2:Tessia is a mom of two. She's an entrepreneur, she's a spiritual teacher. She is an author. Her book is called Rejuvenated Moms Make Happy Kids. We talk quite a bit about her book in the episode and we go a lot of different places. We talk about entrepreneurship. We talk about her next big vision. We talk about the childcare center that she created in Primrose Hill, which is in London.
Speaker 2:Tessia believes that there are times when almost every mother wishes she could give more to her children, especially if she's parenting without enough support and, let's be honest, that's most of us. In her book she draws on the pressure she's experienced and the regular guilty feeling that her kids would fail to thrive if she couldn't figure out how to be perfect. Who else resonates with that? So yeah, tessia is a wisdom keeper. She's a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited to share this conversation with you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. A side note if you know somebody who is pregnant or who is not a mom yet but wants to be a mom one day, this would be an amazing conversation to share with them. So send them the link. Also, tessia's book Rejuvenated Moms Make Happy Kids is a wonderful, amazing resource to send to them as well. I say that every mom should get this. Every future mom should get this at their baby shower. So yes, send this link to a friend. Thanks so much for showing up. Let's dive in. Hi Tessia, welcome to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast.
Speaker 1:Hi Ryan, Thank you for having me. My pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited to have you. So I really want to start with this idea of a rejuvenated mom. It's the name of your book and I'm curious how you realized that rejuvenation for mothers is key in raising healthy children. Did that come from struggle? Or are you like a unicorn and had like a perfect childhood and just came into motherhood like totally prepared?
Speaker 1:No, I was not totally prepared, that's for sure. No, it's a key. It's really important in the sense that I've noticed, and I have experienced myself when I became a mother, that a part of who I were, you know. Just, you know we're gone and you explain this because it's such a big, massive change, right, and if you're not aware that it's so important to care for yourself, you just don't do it and you, just, you know, spend your time caring for your children, which is a normal thing to do as a mother. Obviously, and progressively, you start to realize that wait a minute, there's no time for me and I don't do. You know the activities or you know the hobbies that I used to do before and you just realize that, okay, I'm so happy to have children and I'm so happy to be there for them and to provide for them. But what about me? You know, and I realize that when we are pregnant or when we become mother, people are around us to kind of guide us and, you know, teaching us as well how to care for, you know, our little one, but no one, you know, comes in to say I'm going to tell you or, you know, give you advice on how you can care for yourself and obviously, the more you care for yourself, the more you feel, you know, happy, more you know relaxed, balanced as well. So a better you obviously will make you know, a better mother as well, and it's something that we just don't know, something that we're not aware of, it's not, we don't talk about that enough. So that's why I came up with, you know, the idea of sharing my story, because it's just what happened and I forgot who I was, in the process and it was difficult and when.
Speaker 1:In my case and I want to mention that, no, I didn't, you know, I didn't go into depression or anything like that, and it's good for me but I started to have this kind of, you know, negative thinking pattern and like I was not recognizing myself and it makes you know, at times it made me sad and progressively, this inner voice was saying there's something wrong, there's here, there is something wrong, you have to do something. And it was, you know, day by day, hearing that voice telling me that the journey has to be, you know, better, you know it can't be, you know, because they are blessing, literally, and you can't just feel that, okay, you have two blessings now in your life. But how come that you're not feel, you don't feel completely fulfilled? You know, because something is missing, a part of you is missing, and as soon as I became aware of it, I was, I started, you know, to express myself again. So it was through, you know.
Speaker 1:Obviously, I started to to, to get into a class. I went back to, you know, doing some exercise. I've learned about meditation, so I started to introduce meditation into my routine as well. Lots, lots, lots of different things that I was not doing when they were, you know, very young, just because I was, I was not aware, I just didn't know. So it was not sudden, it was a progression of realization that I needed that for me and it just made a tremendous, you know, change in my life. I'm definitely a rejuvenated mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what I'm hearing you say is the book and the idea to get back to yourself was born from a certain sort of struggle, and you heard this inner voice saying, hey, something's off. What do you think that inner voice was?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm certain, it's my intuition. It was definitely my intuition telling me that, hey, you are forgetting who you are. That's why it's a struggle. Yeah, and as soon as I was able to recognize that, yes, I have needs as well, not just my children you acknowledge your needs and you try to meet them, then, yes, you start to become to feel you again and you just go back to that role of being a mother, with more peace, happiness as well, you, more calm as well, because you feel so happy. So you, and so that was my intuition.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. The first thing that came up for me when you said there's this voice telling me, I thought oh, that's the God, which could be described as intuition as well, like our higher internal self, who always knows the most loving choice and the best for us and our families. So I love that. That kind of gave me this goose bumps, because I think we all have these moments and these opportunities to heed what our intuition might be telling us, and sometimes we follow those breadcrumbs and sometimes we ignore that for a while until maybe then crisis happens. And that's kind of how it happened for me with the birth of my first.
Speaker 2:Six months after she was born, just the floor all dropped out at once Because I didn't listen to the little voices on.
Speaker 2:I needed more sleep. I didn't need to run to her every time she made a noise, like I was this overly anxious mom who just felt so obsessed with providing for my child's every need. And while that's true in some respects we do need to provide for infants, like we do need to be attuned and attached to them, there's also a line, and I'm curious now on the other side of that. Now I have three children they're two, seven and nine, and a question that comes up for me often times is, now that I have this very strong awareness and sense that I come first and my needs are the first ones, do you think there's this line of selfish versus not selfish? And how do you feel about that word? Because I think moms who have been putting themselves on the back burner for months, years, decades even they hear, oh, you have to put yourself first and they get this visceral reaction and the first thing that comes up, their first kind of objection is well, that's selfish. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1:I understand, because I've been there and you might have been there as well, and sometimes we have this guilt coming inside of us and telling us no, come on, you should not do that and you should make them a priority all the time. And I think when you I mean if you are this mom asking yourself those kind of questions just when you are in a plane and you're about to go somewhere do you remember when they ask you to, when, if anything happens, you have to put your oxygen mask first and then you have to put it on your kids Do we feel at that moment like there is something wrong in saying that?
Speaker 2:No, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, that makes completely sense. Because if you can't breathe, how you can? You know you can help your child to breathe. So that makes sense. And it's exactly the same thing in you know, being a mother. If you're not, you know yourself happy, you know full of energy, balance, you know calm in peace. How are you going to ensure you know that your children will, you know, strive or be happy? It's the same thing as you setting an example. When you do that, your children learn from that. They learn that it's so important as well to care for. You know oneself and it's something that they will themselves, you know, incorporate in you know their way of life, the way you know they want to live their life. So it's so important to do that. And when you care for yourself, when you have time for yourself as well, you become a better version, you know, of yourself. You are the best you. So what does it mean for your children? You are the best mom they can have, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what came up for me there? You talked about guilt and I think that's like such a big topic for us as mothers. We have this guilt and I really think that, you know, part of me thinks that it's like this programming and this cultural expectation, these kind of like external influences that then become this voice of guilt in our minds. And it's almost like there's this voice of guilt the way we were programmed to like put everybody else first and be good little girls and fall in line and that, and then there's this intuition of like the wait. I'm my own individual, I have needs and desires and, you know, hopes and dreams, and so it's interesting how those voices are like kind of paradoxically in there for us and, you know, maybe meeting somewhere in the middle and acknowledging that both are present and kind of finding that like neutral space. That's like something that's coming up for me Also.
Speaker 2:I just want to say, like this book that you've written I think should be in every little like baby shower, you know gift that people bring, because imagine all the mothers who aren't mothers actually yet like understanding going in, that like there will be certain challenges, you will feel like you're losing yourself. Here's what to expect. I think one of the resources we can give moms is books like yours. So talk to me about someone who might not be a mom yet, or even like our pre-mother selves. Like what do you want those women to know?
Speaker 1:So I've written this book just obviously for that, because you me, we didn't have this knowledge, we were not aware of this, and what I really want is for them to realize that motherhood can be a beautiful journey and not this type of journey that everybody is talking about. It's so hard, it's so difficult, it's so tough. We know that things will happen that you don't know how to handle because it's the way it is. But if you are aware that it's so important to care for yourself, you can plan things ahead of time or you can decide of the type of motherhood journey you want to have. You know what?
Speaker 1:When I became pregnant, I never asked myself ooh, so motherhood is happening for me. What type of motherhood would I love? I never asked myself this kind of question. I was just preparing to have the best birth I can have and to have all the support that I can have as well. I thought about having my mom when I'm going to give birth and you buy as well all the stuff for the baby, these kind of things, and I never thought about this question. Let's say, when do I plan to go back to the gym, for instance? Never this question came to my mind at all. So obviously it took me years to go back to the things that I like to do because I didn't know. So you don't plan and you should plan. You should kind of visualize or decide the kind of motherhood you want to have.
Speaker 1:Let's say, the baby is out. If I decide to be on maternity leave or to be a stay at home mom, what my week would look like, how I want my week to be. Do I want to be with the baby 24, 7, nonstop? Do I want to go to some classes? Do I want to have some time? Do I want to go to the hairdresser once a month or whatever? You have to start planning about caring for yourself during that journey. You don't do that, we don't. You agree with me that lots of people are here to teach us how to care or to look after the baby. Nobody is here to give us advice on how to care for ourselves. There's no one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's really not. There's really not. I think it's kind of a new, it's kind of a revolutionary thing. I'm not sure that our mothers and their mothers I'm sure that their mothers didn't have it, but even our mothers like, generationally, things change so much. It's interesting.
Speaker 2:I once asked my 90, she's 96 now my 96-year-old grandmother if you could have gone back, grandma, she had six kids. If you could have gone back, what would you have done instead of being a stay at home mom? I wanted to know if she had this dream of a career goal or something else it was calling to her. She kind of laughed and was like it wasn't even something that she could even fathom. The possibility really wasn't even there.
Speaker 2:That made me think so deeply of how much choice we have today. Like you, I chose to be a stay at home mom and I had no idea what that was going to entail. Just thinking about weekly planning would have been something so helpful for me, because I was just floating in the abyss of baby-ness and just thinking that that's the way it was. That's what you're supposed to do. It never even occurred to me to take her for a walk to the park, because she wasn't big enough to even walk and play at the park. Very little nuances like that would have been really helpful. What a gift to new moms you are giving them.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you, ren, I didn't have that. You just do your best every single day and you just go with the flow, that's it. You don't even question, you don't just do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least stop it is. Why do you think it's so easy for us, as moms, to have the default setting be to put everybody else's needs above our own? Where do you think it comes from?
Speaker 1:I never really thought about that really deeply, but I just think that we have been programmed to behave, to think this way, because it's just automatic. It just comes automatically. So I know it's a conditioning there. Now, how it has been there, it's just obviously your parents were like this. They have been programmed as well, so they're just repeating what they've learned. And you do the same thing. And I know that for a fact because I remember when I had the boys, I asked myself a question what kind of education I want to give them?
Speaker 1:And you start introspection and you go back to your own childhood and your mom's. In my case it was just my mom and my auntie raising me but you just assess this parenting style and you just decide if it's that what you want for your children or if you want to change some things here and there. And when you start having this kind of approach about having it the way you want, really you can do that for other things as well. And so this idea of not doing things for yourself, it's all about the children. You don't go out anymore with your friends, you don't really do dates with your partner, all of this it's gone If you start as well the introspection, and you will say, no, I would love to still do that.
Speaker 1:I would love to still continue on doing dates or going out with my friends. So then it will start to shift, to shape as well your weeks. So it will be different. You will start to be able to do the things you used to do, and so to continuing on expressing who you truly are. So there is no lost of identity here. But when you don't do those introspection or you don't decide about the way you want things to go as a new mom or as a mother, then a part of you would just disappear. And many, many mothers they find themselves in that type of situation, many still nowadays. They just go with the flow every single day and they just they put their desires, they put their hobbies, everything. Can you hear me? Yes, on the side.
Speaker 2:Yes, so sorry, my dog was barking and so I had to do a little mute so he wouldn't be barking on the screen. Yeah, I really so agree with that. And it's interesting because when I reflect, I'm like did I even know who I was before I had children? Like because you've said a lot of different times, like we're losing who we are, we're like losing our identity, and I look back and I'm like pre-baby Ryan, like who was she? She was so very different, right, and I'm not sure that she was conscious enough to have this very healthy identity. So it's really interesting.
Speaker 2:I found a tremendous amount of healing through becoming a mother and I think when that happens I've over identified with this mother role and who I am to them. So I really consciously have to like unravel myself from I am not just a mother. I'm very grateful for becoming a mother and the different worldview it's allowed me and the healthier sense of self I've gotten and like all these healing things that have come from it. So it's interesting for me. I look back and many of the activities and interests that I had before becoming a mother don't resonate with me anymore. Do you have you found anywhere along the way that that's true for you or anyone. You know that, like now, since becoming a mother, their whole life has changed and shifted and they don't really go back to pre-mom like interests or hobbies, like, and it's all new.
Speaker 1:It's beautiful what you're saying and I completely agree. In my journey there was something going wrong. That's what I was able to feel. Not everyone will feel that. Some they will feel absolutely happy in the new them they became. In my case it didn't happen, and I know I'm not the only one but obviously we have some people that they're really happy with the new identity they created by becoming a mother.
Speaker 1:Before becoming a mother, I had things that I was doing that I've loved to do. Going out, it was something that I loved. Going on dates as well with my partner at the time was something that I loved. So many things that I was doing. I was exercising as well, because at the time, I was working full time and I had the gym in the building, so it was really handy. So lots of things that I was enjoying were gone when I became a mother. That's a fact. It was things that I enjoyed doing and it was my responsibility to create occasions, opportunities to do the things again, and I didn't. So that's the thing For other mothers that they became mother and they don't really miss those things and that part of who they were before. Perfect. Perfect, then, because you are happy where you are, there's nothing that is missing you just growing as a mother, as an individual. You perfectly where you are. But in my case it was not that.
Speaker 2:Such a testament to knowing your own truth and knowing that it's not going to be one way for everybody. I love that Because then you tune in to yourself. Not because society is telling you to go to the gym, it's because you really liked it. Not because everybody says you should have a mom's night out, it's because you really loved it. So I think, tuning into that authenticity of the choice, how does it make you feel when my kids, my big kids, when they leave the house to go wherever to do their class or their homeschool co-op, I'll say, because we all have this habit of saying, oh, have a good day.
Speaker 2:I've started to hear myself say that I'm like well, what if they don't have a good day? Not all days are good, what does that even mean? So I've started saying notice when things light you up today. I hope you find something that makes your heart sing today or something really specific for them to like. Language is so important. I've been diving into that, so doing that for ourselves too.
Speaker 2:What's lighting me up today? What makes me feel so giddy and like a kid and so excited and joyous and just noticing where those are coming into play and just taking note of it, and the more that you do that it's like a muscle the more you'll find what truly lights your soul on fire. And for me, it was like a really slow and trudgy process to do that because I was kind of like weeding through a lot of other things. But I just want this to be hope for someone who's like well, I don't know who I am anymore and I don't want to be the person I was before I had kids. Just know who you are today. One thing that you find that lights you up Exactly Brilliant.
Speaker 1:I love that and for me, what was resonating a lot is that I am not just the mother. I'm so many other things and the message behind Rejuvenating Muscle Makeup Bekitt is too often for a couple of years we are just a mother and this is not the truth. We are not just the mother, so I think sometimes we need that reminder. We do a lot of times.
Speaker 2:So on your website, you call yourself a childcare pioneer, which got me really excited. I was like, ooh, I love that phrase. So will you tell us a little bit about how this unique childcare center that you've created was born?
Speaker 1:So it was born of what we are discussing now. I remember when my first one was one year old. It's when I started to think that I would love to have more time for myself and I would like him to socialize, have friends, get independence, not always being with me, and so I just started to look for a childcare provider and I couldn't find anything In terms of anything. I'm going to be more precise. You have daycare here in London, but they want you to sign the child up for a minimum of days and hours, and I wanted to be a stay at home mom. That was my choice and my decision and I was happy with that choice.
Speaker 1:But having the baby 24-7, I felt that I needed a bit of time for myself. So when you look up for those kind of things, they want to have the child for three days or four mornings, whatever, and I still want to raise my child. So that's why I couldn't find anything in alignment with my goal. So I decided to create my own, let's say, a little crash, a little nursery, but it's just a couple of hours, it's only open for two hours. We're trying to go for three, but it's just for parents especially, more often mothers to drop the baby with us and to just have a little break and not to be obliged or to leave the child for the whole day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big, I mean gosh, if I had an option like that when my first was born. How amazing. I didn't even know that that was a thing, and here in the States it's not really quite a thing either. Like, we've been lucky to find a play-based preschool and we've been with them throughout the years and they have different and unique offerings. But to have something with qualified loving providers outside of your home where you can drop and go for a little bit, that's a really it's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 2:It's something that I would argue all parents need, just for a little bit. Because I think when you're so in it like you've been saying, 24 hours a day, seven days a week it's hard to hear that inner voice, it's hard to hear what's lighting me up, it's hard to it gets a little fuzzy, and so to have a little bit of that space to exhale and be in your body and be in your own thoughts and just really get back into yourself, I think that's so important. What a gift you're giving your community there to have that, I mean it's brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's such a I wanted that and I couldn't find that for myself. So I know what, I've experienced that myself and I remember I called my mom because in France we do have that. It's because, going back to work, obviously the society is kind of prepared. They have nursery everywhere because you are a working mom and a working dad, so you go back to work, boom, we have a solution for you. But when you decide to be a stay at home mom here in London actually not in France there's nothing for you. There's nothing to support you in that decision and to give you a bit of time for you. There's nothing.
Speaker 1:In France we do have that. We call them garderies. So stay at home months can have two afternoons or two mornings for themselves, why the child can enjoy play, being happy in a secure environment. This is brilliant. Being a friend, being French, I know about the service. So when I arrived here I expected to have the service here. Believe the shock that I had when I was looking for it and I couldn't find it. And then my mom said it's OK, just create one. Ok, so by the time I create one, I don't benefit from it, but it just makes me feel so happy that all the moms can benefit from it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what a testament to that creative energy of I don't see something that I need, I'm going to make it, I'm just going to do it. I think that's a beautiful example for all of us here with you right now, just like sometimes we just have to start before we're ready. Sometimes we just have to take the leap and make the thing. I'm sure, based on everything, I know that it wasn't necessarily just really easy peasy, lemon squeezy for you to just go out and start this child care center. I'm sure that you were jumping through hoops and all the things. So it's just such a testament to just make it happen. If you want to start a thing, do a thing, like just take one step and two steps and three steps and then it's made. So do you want to speak a little bit about that? Because that tells me you're entrepreneurial at heart, you're creative, you're ambitious. So maybe talk to me about having those things as your identity as well, plus, of course, mother.
Speaker 1:Yes. So no, I never see myself before having you know, children, to become an entrepreneur. It was not something that I planned before. But seeing, I mean experiencing, you know, lots of you know, challenges and suffering, not being able to do anything for myself. I just kind of felt that I need to do something. I need, you know, to help out to support all the moms. And that's, you know, I think, this fire inside of me because it was so tough that I was like, oh my God, I need to do something. And it came from that Because I was really fueled by it. Like, do something, don't let you know the others going through the same, you know, path. It was such a difficult path. So if you can do something different and if you can ease, you know, the process or the journey for mothers, just do it. So that's why I decided to do that.
Speaker 1:And mothers at Lipiti Bilo always said, oh my God, this is just a beautiful idea. And they come back, you know, to pick, you know to pick their children up and they say I've been able to do this, I've been able to do that. It's just, you know, such a big reward to see, you know their face and how they feel about the fact that, you know, they have a bit of time for themselves. And they went. You know, I remember one mother specifically. She said I was able to read. I just, you know, took those two hours just to read because I love reading and I just don't, you know, find the time. So, thank you. And I was like, oh my God, this is the big reward, it's so powerful.
Speaker 2:I've got goosebumps and I'm crying because you know. What I'm hearing you say is this was born out of your desire to serve, like you discovered a need for yourself and you don't even need the service anymore, and yet you've still chosen to serve the mothers in your community, and that is such a beautiful thing. It didn't come from a necessarily a selfish desire or a want to get rich or a need to create an empire. It came from this desire to serve. And what a beautiful, what a beautiful origin story. You know, I love that.
Speaker 1:I think we more now, I'm more aware of this. What you said, what you just said, is very true, but I think we forget too often that we are one. If I don't even do that now for mothers, don't forget that I may have daughters. You know my friend might have daughters. You know my I have two boys. Okay, but they're going to marry it maybe one day or have children anyways. So you know, we shouldn't forget, you know that we are all one and helping others is anyways helping myself. You know it always come back to you anyways. So I think it's a good, it's a good reminder that whatever you can do for others, you know it's so, yeah, it's so powerful. It's so, yeah, it's so strong we have to be. If we are more like this in this planet, you know, I think we will have a better, you know place to live.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I'm with you. It's interesting because I'll go to yoga or I'll go to a women's circle and whatever is happening, whatever the teaching is, whatever I get out of it is the thing that I knew, that I needed to get out of it. And whatever, oftentimes my favorite teacher will say you know, this week I needed this, this and this, and so this week I'm teaching yoga about this, this and this, and what one of us needs, all of us need in some form or fashion. So that's so true. We're all interconnected and even though it may not seem obvious, logical or reasonable, it's true.
Speaker 2:Like you know, there's this collective consciousness that we can realize is there. So I'm glad you brought that up too. So, as we start to wrap up, I'm curious. I'm going to ask you the three questions I ask everybody at the end, but before I do that, I'm super curious and this is like very non-pressure, like which I'm sure that you are just great at. But I'm curious, like what the big vision for you is, or what's next for you. Do you have thoughts of like what's next, or are you just kind of rooting into where your two feet are now?
Speaker 1:The big vision is to make sure that this message goes everywhere. I really feel for new moms and mothers. Being myself a mother and having experiencing how it was when they were young, I just want to make sure that I do everything possible to ease the journey, and the only way is to make sure that rejuvenating moms make up the kids is in more hands than it is now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it. I love it. So where can we find the book and follow your work and learn more about what else you do? Tessia.
Speaker 1:So the book is on Amazon, so that's an easy way, it's just there. You can reach me as well at tessiawhatsoncom. So that's the website and, yes, anyone who have questions or anything. As we just said, I'm here to serve and I'm happy to share my story, and mistakes, triumphs as well everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amazing. Thank you so much. So what is bringing you joy today?
Speaker 1:A day's podcast. Thank you, ryan. You too, I absolutely love our conversation. It's just, it's beautiful. It just reminded me of so many things and why I'm doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:Me too, me too. This is exactly what I needed today as well. What are you reading now, if anything?
Speaker 1:Right now wow, I have one. I'm reading a lot the works of Neville Godard. I don't know if you're familiar, I'm not. It's a spiritual teacher and I'm part of a book club and currently we are studying atomic habits.
Speaker 2:Oh, my husband's reading that one right now. James Clear yeah exactly Okay, I he got it from the library. I was like that's on my list after. I'm going to take it from him when he's done. Amazing.
Speaker 1:And I and I talk about that as well a bit in Rejuvenating Most Makeup Bekitts because we, we have to change, obviously, our habits. They define us. So if you want to change you know you, you have to change, you know your habits. So this book is, is, is a, is a great, great book.
Speaker 2:Awesome. And then the last question I have for you, Tessia, is who or what have you learned the most from?
Speaker 1:Wow, you can answer this question.
Speaker 2:It's impossible I know some people like, well, just throw out like 20 ideas of who or what they've learned the most from some people. You know like it, it can just be the thing that comes to mind first. You know it doesn't you can change your mind tomorrow. You know you said uh, who or?
Speaker 1:what.
Speaker 2:Well, a person or a life circumstance, or a book or a teacher, you know anything that that feels true for you in this moment.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I would say, can I say two person? Yes, I've learned so much from my mom. Um, that's, that's one thing. And um, right now, just when we're talking, I just my mentor came back to my mind, bob Proctor. So from Bob Proctor I've learned so many things. And he said we all have, you know, a book within us and if we decide, you know, to share our story, then we just birthed in a book that, will you know, help others. So that was a great, great um advice, because since he gave that advice, I decided to to write Rejuvenating Mosque Epicades.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for making that decision and thank you so much for showing up today and your full wisdom and sharing it with us. We really, really appreciate you.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate you, ryan, and thank you so much for having me and to create as well that space you know for me to to share my story. Thank you.