Sarah Gyampoh is a mother of five, mindfulness and yoga teacher and LCSW who shares her pearls of wisdom on navigating the journey of motherhood while incorporating mindfulness and emotional well-being. She offers an honest perspective on the emotional rollercoaster of raising children and underlines the need for self-care and releasing negative energy.
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Sarah Gyampoh is a mother of five, mindfulness and yoga teacher and LCSW who shares her pearls of wisdom on navigating the journey of motherhood while incorporating mindfulness and emotional well-being. She offers an honest perspective on the emotional rollercoaster of raising children and underlines the need for self-care and releasing negative energy.
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If you feel inspired please consider sharing this episode with a friend, writing a 5⭐️ review or becoming a Raising Wild Hearts Member here!
when we become moms, everything comes up right, all of our stuff and as our children grow, I believe that they show us the beauty inside of us and the wonderful parts and also the parts that we've kind of pushed down and said like oh no, not me, I don't do that, I don't have every human emotion. No, I don't get angry. Yeah right, like, show me a human on this planet who doesn't experience the full rainbow of human emotions.
Speaker 2:Welcome, revolutionary mama, to the raising wild hearts podcast. I'm Ryan Watkin, educator, mom of three, revel at heart and passionate soul, on a mission to empower and inspire you.
Speaker 2:Here we'll explore psychology, spirituality, parenthood and the intersection where they all come together. We'll discover how challenges can be fertile soil for growth and that even in the messy middle of motherhood, we can find magic in the mundane. Join me on my own personal journey as I talk to experts and share resources on education, creativity, self care, family, culture and more. I believe we can change the world by starting at home in our own minds and hearts, and that when we do, we'll be passing down the most important legacy there is healing, and so it is. Welcome back to the podcast. Everybody, so glad you're here. Today.
Speaker 2:I'm having a conversation with kind of an old friend. We've connected a number of times throughout the years and I'm so happy that we reconnected recently For a bit. She moved out of the country and she was kind of taking a pause on some of her professional work while she was getting her LMSW. And she is back to work and putting her offerings out there in the world and I'm so excited to share them with you. Her wisdom is palpable. She's a momma five and I really appreciate her take on mindfulness, her take on mothering. She has such a calm presence and this conversation was just a gem for me. I really, really loved it. It was super heartfelt.
Speaker 2:So I guess I should mention who our guest is. Her name is Sarah Jompo, lmsw, ryt and RPYT. Those are her letters. Behind her name I actually don't. So one of them has to do with yoga, I think. But yeah, she has a master's degree in social work from the University of Maryland, baltimore. She has completed a yoga training in therapeutic yoga there you go and is also certified in both fertility and prenatal yoga. She's the creator of birth with love L-O-V-E, a conscious childbirth class and mother with love. She is also the author of the mindful mother's way, which is sitting on my nightstand right now and I'm so excited to dive into that.
Speaker 2:And mommy's deep breath I don't know about you, but I could always use a deep breath as a mommy, as a human, as just somebody here on this earth trying to navigate this thing called life. It's not a sometimes, it's just not an easy road. So yes, mommy's deep breath, I love that. I know in the past week or so, as I'm recording this intro, I've needed to take a few deep breaths. I'm in a little bit of a season of overwhelm currently. There's a number of different things going on in our household. So, anyway, yeah, I always need that beautiful reminder to take a deep breath, and this conversation today is like a breath of fresh air for sure. I'm really, really excited to share it with you.
Speaker 2:Send me an email, Hello at raisingwildheartspodcastcom If you have any questions or if you want to share takeaways, please subscribe to the podcast. If you haven't already hit the checkmark, or hit follow or subscribe in the top right hand on Spotify, amazon Music or Apple, wherever you're listening. Also, if you feel super inspired and you know somebody who could benefit from one of these conversations, copy the link and send it on over. That's how we're going to get in front of more minds and hearts. All right, more about Sarah.
Speaker 2:She's a mama five and she believes every woman has the right to feel confident and calm in her journey of pregnancy and motherhood and that the science of wisdom, of yoga and mindfulness offer the tools to guide women to that sacred place. I think one of the things that is just my north guiding star is having this container, this role of motherhood, be a sacred place. I've mentioned multiple times on this podcast that my children and my role of mother is my spiritual practice. On many days, I do have a formal spiritual practice too. Quote unquote formal, but I think to just knee deep in dirty diapers and conflict resolution and whining voices and sticky hands. That can be a very spiritual practice if we let it be. I think that's one of the underlying messages or the through lines here. We talk about mindfulness, we talk about honoring yourself, we talk about relieving stress and anxiety and healing through motherhood. I know you guys are going to enjoy this conversation as much as I did, and let's dive in. Hi Sarah, welcome to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast.
Speaker 1:Hi Ryan, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm great it's so good to see you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so wonderful to be here. It's been such a long time that our paths have been interwoven, so it's so special to finally get this time to chat.
Speaker 2:It's so special and I'm trying to think back to when we were first connected. I know it had something to do with your first book and I know that we spent some time together in the Moms and Business Collective when you were pregnant with your last kiddo, your most recent kiddo.
Speaker 1:Yes, at the library, right, yes, okay, yes, yes, and how old is she now?
Speaker 2:She's four and a half. Well, she's almost five, so that was five plus years ago then. Wow, wow. So my girls were toddlers and she's your fifth, Fifth, yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, and do you have any? Fifth and final?
Speaker 2:No. Fifth and final, okay, I was like, do you have any more? Because you never know. No, no more babies. I remember telling you I think we crossed paths at the park or something and you were there with your friend and you guys had, like Between the two of you, I think, like nine or ten kids. And I said to you I said you're such an amazing mom and you said well, just because I have five kids doesn't mean I'm an amazing mom. And I was like, oh, that's interesting, because I see that you're just like crushing it, cuz five sets of needs to me is like it's so amazing that you meet these five sets of needs the best you can. And how much of that do you attribute to Mindfulness and the work that you do in your personal life to nourish yourself?
Speaker 1:I attribute a hundred percent of it to mindfulness and how I take care of myself and honor myself. And I don't know if you know my story of how I really got into practicing mindfulness. Yes, I was a yoga instructor. I'm a yoga instructor and social worker by training, so I've been helping women and moms with this forever. But I wasn't practicing what I was preaching like. I was working and helping others and being a mom.
Speaker 1:And one day I woke up and my world was literally spinning in circles.
Speaker 1:I had vertigo, but it was so bad I couldn't even get off the floor, so we had to call an ambulance to take me to the hospital and then when I was there, I like threw up on the doctor.
Speaker 1:The whole thing was a mess and it took me a good three weeks to recover from that. And when I was lying in bed kind of healing, trying to be a mom while also healing myself I was like oh, wait a minute, like I'm not even practicing what I teach and how I help people. And I made a promise to myself that when I felt better, I would take time every day to practice yoga and meditate and do all the things I was helping other women to do, but I didn't have a personal practice that was consistent or meaningful. I would always start and stop. So since that day, I make the time daily and that allows me to Look at what's showing up for me and holding space for my emotions, and that's how I'm able to do it for my children. Is I have to do it for myself first and foremost, or else it just doesn't work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. Thank you so much for that story. That is a beautiful illustration of what happens to us, I think collectively, when we become mothers. I heard someone say recently it might have been Glenn and oil, but she said, like why do women almost have to die to take care of themselves? Like, why do we have to have this major like life you know disruption for us to go? Wait a minute were first and I found that with my first one I had a in a cute Episode of postpartum depression, that borderline like psychosis, where I just had not slept, had not nourished, had not, and I was so far off the beaten path of like reality, like grounded reality, and I'm like, oh shit, like this. So we have to have these like almost like emergency moments for us to go okay, and I would not recommend that necessarily to anyone, but I think you know that's such a common theme. Have you seen that with the women that you guide in your practice?
Speaker 1:I have, like a lot of them reach their I call it. They're like turning point, right where they're like okay, this is a, this is a breaking point that becomes a turning point. Like this is I just yelled at my infant because I'm so stressed out and it's like this little bundle. But it's because, you know, when we become moms, everything comes up right, all of our stuff. And as our children grow, I believe that they show us the beauty inside of us and the wonderful parts and also the parts that we've kind of pushed down and said like, oh no, not me, I don't do that, that I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't have every human emotion. No, I don't get angry. Yeah, right, like, show me a human on this planet who doesn't experience the full rainbow of human emotions. And our children, they just show it. Right, they're angry, they show their anger, they work through it. Then they move on right, and so that's what I help moms to do is like express it and show it and work with what's coming up and then let it go. Don't hold on to it and shame yourself for it or guilt yourself for it or feel stressed out about it. You're human. Our children show us that they're they're the most mindful beings on this planet, right they? They feel it, they experience it and then they release it.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh, my, okay, bye, that, that'll do it. I mean, it's just so powerful, I resonate with it, so freaking. Much like this morning my one of my children was having a hard day. They don't want to go to school. That the back and forth.
Speaker 2:I'm getting a little elevated, she's getting a little elevated. You know, we're doing this like a little dance and I'm going like, okay, I can be this present, call mom, even in the storm, the calm, in the chaos, right, it's been a practice I've been doing for five plus years. Well, little more than that anyway. So she gets in the car, we talk about it and I go. She, oh, she goes. Now I have to pretend to be happy co-op, you know, cuz I was dropping off at our co-op and I go.
Speaker 2:That's so interesting, you feel like you need to go. She has this social like you know, construct of you gotta go to work in school and show up with a face, even though you've had a rough morning. And I said you know you could be a little quieter, you could be shy and reserved. And then one of your friends ask you like, or one of your teachers ask you, somebody that you trust ask you hey, why are you so quiet today? You can say you know I had a tough morning and I didn't feel like coming, and my mom, you know, she urged me to go Gently, strongly, and it really kind of ticked me off and it was so interesting and I was like, you know, if that's not like a metaphor for life, like I don't know what is right.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about some Really practical ways for us to let it go. So, for me, this morning, and actually over the past few days, we've had a full moon with eclipse energy. If anybody's like following astrology, there's like this, this energy that we're having, you know, as above, so below, and so I felt that come through my body these past few days, as we're recording this, and yesterday I found that I had to, you know, do kind of a meditation and then some things moved through and I had to like shake my body and I had to, like, you know, move, and I had to move my spine and really get it out. So let's talk about that's like one of the things I do is just moving. And so what are some things that you recommend people do to just like get it up and get it out?
Speaker 1:Yes, so, like you mentioned, shaking is amazing, right like, just get that energy going and flowing so it doesn't stagnate and congregate somewhere. And dancing it out like dance parties are one of my favorite practices. Like you can do them with your children, you can do them by yourself, because then you're moving energy and it's fun and it's like can like Really get into it and just release whatever would want to to stagnate, right. And then, if you want more of a like structured kind of a practice, some yoga asana, right like, get into your breath and move that energy and release. And it doesn't have to look pretty. That's what I always tell women. Like A lot of women come to me and they're like, well, I've never done yoga before or I'm not flexible, can I do this work? And I always say, of course, because you're moving your body.
Speaker 1:As you move your body, you're moving your energy and your breath gets to Be the added benefit of like working with them together just allows thing to flow and move. And when you're going through some asana, then you're moving the energy in a way that you're I don't like controlling, but like you're facilitating the movement in a conscious way. And breath work is a big one right, like getting into your breathing, and it can be as simple as taking conscious, deep Breath, because many of us go through our day and we haven't taken a single breath that we thought about like how am I breathing? Because our breath tells our body how to feel. Right, if we're taking shallow breath, then we are in a high end alert mode when we may not need to be right. So even just taking a few minutes to take a few conscious breath, we realize, oh, I feel more relaxed and more settled.
Speaker 1:So always just working with what's showing up right, like there isn't a prescription, like I'm feeling anger, what should I do? It's, I'm feeling anger. How can I move this energy? How can I honor it? First of all, right, like your daughter was saying this morning, like I don't, so I have to put on a happy face so I can go show up. But and I believe you gave her the space you know to honor how she was feeling and to work with it.
Speaker 1:But we have been told like don't show up angry, don't show up upset, don't show up stressed out, put on a smile and go through it. But that's not honoring how we're feeling. So I think environments that create a space where we can honor what's true for us, right, and being in places where people recognize we all feel everything. So that's a big part of what I love to do is group work, because then we all get to hold this space together and everybody can see, oh, even though her story is very different from mine, or she has five children and I have one and you know, I don't feel angry, I feel stressed or I feel anxious or I feel a little depressed.
Speaker 1:We hear our story in other women's stories. So creating those kinds of spaces, even if it means calling a friend right, like that's a beautiful practice in that I find is helps bring me back to centers, just like venting and getting it out to a friend who understands. So I'd say those are some of the most potent practices and they're things that we can incorporate into our daily lives as moms. Right, it doesn't need to be, oh, I need to go to a week long retreat which beautiful, amazing, if you have the ability to do that. But you can create that sacred space for yourself at home and at any moment in the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So you said something that really stuck out to me and you said it doesn't have to look pretty, and I think, for me, I was growing up in an era where we were told it does have to look pretty, from our handwriting to our outfit, to our smile, to everything that we present as little girls specifically to the outside world. It actually does have to look pretty, ladies, and so this is something that I'm unraveling recently, so that really really stuck out for me. Sometimes I feel like I'm putting on this show this like I don't know if you've seen Inside Out the feeling you know all we're all the feelings are like little avatars of this feeling.
Speaker 2:And then there's like this elephant called Bilbo and he's like this really happy guy and he's like putting on a hat and singing and dancing and sometimes I feel like that elephant with the stripy socks. He's like this pink, ridiculous elephant. That's like this person's childhood, you know, imaginary friend, and I'm like I think as moms, as women, we're like putting on this show. Our kids eat all organic where they're so well behaved. Look at how they match, look at how we this, look at how we that we're so great and a lot of the work for me has been unraveling that recently.
Speaker 2:And so you know it doesn't look pretty to have to process or really it's a need to process our emotions. It doesn't look pretty to go like for a walk and be like moving your arms, cause it feels good. You know, like so much of this, like self-reservation, this like held back expression is created in childhood. For me it's one of the you know cycles that I'm breaking in my life. It's, you know that was passed down general, you know generationally, and so I'm breaking that. So what are your thoughts on not looking pretty in any aspect of our motherhood journey, our womanhood journey?
Speaker 1:I think finding your authentic, what's authentic for you, right? Like, maybe for one woman it is the fashion and the makeup and because it feels good for their soul, right, it's nourishing for them, and for another woman it's no makeup. You know like secondhand clothing because you're wanting to be conscious about the earth and you know eating organic food most of the time and you know just honoring what's true for you, because we're all different, right? I don't even know what the population is on the planet, maybe 8 billion now?
Speaker 2:It's like pushing that, I think. I think it's 7.8 or 7.9 or something, yeah.
Speaker 1:So every single human has their own unique experience and every mom has your unique way of being and every child has their unique way of being and every family has their own culture. Let's say, right, like your own family's practices and things that you do, and I feel like the healing comes when you honor what your truth is Like. Maybe you love sparkly dresses and it's a Monday morning and you're just going to be in your home with your children, but you put on a sparkly dress because that's authentic to you, or maybe it's you know, doing a clay mask every Sunday. Or you know, just finding your truth and recognizing that society will have an image of what a quote unquote good mom looks like and what quote unquote well-behaved children look like. And that doesn't mean it's the truth, it's just what's been passed down and not questioned, right. So I think asking yourself those questions is how you get to be yourself and finding out what feels good to you and how you express that inwardly and outwardly, right. Like maybe you have like a really big dream of like changing the world in some way and how that expresses outwardly is showing love to yourself and your children in every way that you possibly can and that leads you to recognizing oh, my dream is to create world peace.
Speaker 1:Let's say right. And how does that start? It starts with yourself right. And recognizing we're all perfectly imperfect. We all have areas that we feel like shouldn't be shown to the world. Right, we have to put on our mask and show our pretty and have our clothes and our car and our house and our whatever. But what about looking at those places and saying like they're all so beautiful. They're all so beautiful because they're part of who I am and I'm whole and perfect and complete just as I am.
Speaker 1:Yes, are there places where I would like to work on things like maybe lengthening my patience meter so that I'm not as quick to react to something? Of course, but does that mean there's something wrong with that piece of you or that aspect of you? Absolutely not. It means that's who you are and your life has led you to be who you are, and your experiences and the books you've read, everything right. And so to honor all of those places, I think then we get to show up and feel great, whether we're in sweatpants or whether we're in a ball gown. Right, because it comes from inside of our own being.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that you brought up that authenticity piece and I think what came up for me there was judgment and really self-judgment and judgment of others. I think for me I've noticed when I'm judging others, I'm judging myself, some aspect of something I'm uncomfortable with in me, you know.
Speaker 1:Right, it's a part that hasn't been integrated yet, right? Like, well, how, like one that shows up for me, let's say, is like when women feel so comfortable like putting themselves out there, and like I realized like I hold myself back oftentimes Not that I judge women who put themselves out there I'm like, wow, I strive to be able to do that and to feel 100% comfortable with it, without judging myself for how I'm showing up, right, because maybe I don't wear the trendiest clothes, let's say. So. I'm like, well, can I still show up and be authentic and put myself out there without judging myself for not being a fashionista, right? So it's so interesting how we integrate those things that we see that become a part of our reality and we say like, well, she's doing it that way and that seems to be working, but it's inauthentic to you, right? So how do you find what's authentic to you to show up whole?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. So this really segues into the conversation of honoring ourselves and the word honoring. Just if we could all, like you know, put a pin in that word, like to honor oneself. I mean, words are so powerful. And imagine if we all walked around on this earth honoring ourselves, really, bowing to that authenticity within us, bowing to that divine spark within ourselves. I think we'd have a lot of happy people walking around, we'd have a lot of, you know, systematic change. We'd have a lot of happy families, we'd have a lower divorce rate. We'd have, you know, I think it would that ripple effect in culture would be real.
Speaker 2:And so let's frame this however you want. I, in my personal life, I want my kids to know they're honored and I want them to know to honor themselves as well. So one of the affirmations I say to them this is from a dear, one of my most favorite teachers in the world, and it says you are held, you are loved, you are protected, you are guided, you are honored. And then I repeat it three times to them, usually when they're like getting really sleepy, right before bed. So it really gets into that subconscious, you know, level, and I say it for myself too. So let's talk about honoring ourselves and then honoring our children too, in the process.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you said it right To know you're held and protected and loved and guided, because we all are right, we are all here, every soul that is on this planet is here with an intention, is here with purpose, and it's like I forgot which Dr Seuss book it is. You are, you are then you, and he's saying like that's it, you're the only one of you. And For me it comes down to just loving all parts of your being and allowing them to show up and honoring that. We're always on the path to our highest selves, or our best selves or our most healed selves, let's say, and part of that is loving everything that shows up, and recognizing this is showing up to teach me something, and if I can honor that it's showing up and leading me on the path to my best self, then it's more useful. Right, if I'm resisting it and saying like no anger is bad, I shouldn't be angry or I shouldn't be quick tempered or impatient or whatever it is that is showing up, then we push it down and we don't give it a voice. So giving a voice to all of the feelings and saying you're welcome here is how I see as honoring yourself, and then you get to do that for your children, because when you can hold space for your own, I call them the big emotions right, like the jealousy, the anger, the shame, the guilt, the fear, the anxiety, which is a whole mix of things and shows up differently for people and same with depression.
Speaker 1:Or, if you really want to get into the mental health diagnosis, which is not our purpose or intention here but if we can honor this is showing up to show me where I'm out of alignment within my being. And if I can hold space for that feeling and say you're welcome here, then I can do that for my child, for my two year old having a, you know, a power struggle, like I don't want to do this and you're not going to make me do it, and I'm going to assert my myself and say what I'm talking in terms of the two year old, like what I'm doing or saying is valuable, and if the mom can say I'm holding space for that, if you do it in a safe way, right, like you can't hurt anybody else and you have to you know there have to be some guidelines as to how it's expressed or like what's safe. But yeah, let it out, because sometimes kids are right. You know, like they don't. You know, like you said, your daughter was feeling like I don't feel like going, like I'm not showing up as my best quote, unquote, best self today I'm feeling whatever way and I don't want to go. That was very true for her right and having the space to process that and work through it and say you can still show up even when you're feeling this way, like you don't have to put on a smile. You get to show up and be how you're feeling authentically.
Speaker 1:And when we give our emotions that space, we do it for our children, right? We tell them you're allowed to be angry, you're allowed to feel, you know, tired or nervous about something or uncomfortable. You're allowed to feel all of those things. And how can we work with it? How can we hold space for it to show us that we can still find a way to navigate it and show up and take care of what we need to take care of, even when we're sad, even when we're anxious, even when we're feeling angry, even when we're feeling just kind of blah. Right, like those things are valid and when we can honor them within ourselves and say like I deserve a rest day. You know I don't have to say why I want a rest day. We get to rest. We don't always have to be pretty and perfect and producing.
Speaker 1:And when we show our children that they see it right, like oh, we have to be able to name it and express it right, like today, I'm right now doesn't even have to be today. Right now I'm feeling sad or I'm feeling impatient, and I'm sorry that I put that onto you when I yelled right and there's the repair. And then when our children feel that way, they see, oh, mom feels that way too. And then it always turns out okay because we work through it together. So mom is a safe space to process with. So I can show my anger, I can have my temper tantrum, I can.
Speaker 1:You know, one time one of my sons like wrote a letter that he was like mad at me and he wrote it down like I'm mad at you, mom, and I was like you're allowed to be mad at me, you're allowed to disagree with me, you're a human and you're allowed to have your feelings. And how can we work through it together? What are things that we can do together and what are things that you can do on your own? You know, as children get older, they can do more and more on their own of that kind of regulating and feeling how they're feeling and expressing it. And those are the beautiful parts, right, when we don't pretend that everything is perfect and our outfits are always matching and our food is always organic, or our child's never picked up a pretzel from the van floor and put it in their mouths and eat in it. Right, that's the real, that's the authentic, that's the honoring of this beautiful path of motherhood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of what you're saying, sarah, reminds me of parts work and I'm just diving into it and the way that I've been practicing it or integrating it in my life is I have a meditation that prompts me Feel what you're feeling in your body and if it's something that's really strong, put it over here in this safe bubble, let's call it and tell it.
Speaker 2:I see you and I hear you and just wait there, like I'm here and you wait there, and so for me it's really helped me externalize this, like, ooh, I feel like really, let's say, agitated. I feel agitated. I don't know why, I don't have a logical reason, I don't know where it's coming from, but I feel really agitated and I'm going to put that feeling right here and so I can see it. So there's some separation, there's some space, and then to honor that feeling, to personify it, and say I honor you, I see you, I'm going to hear you, I'm going to come back to you, you belong here, I get you. A lot of it reminds me of parts work. So talk to me about how maybe you integrate that in your own life, or maybe just your experience of it.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I think you said it perfectly is like seeing that it's there but recognizing that it's not you, right, it's something that's showing up to teach you something or to help you heal something, or to help you recognize hey, maybe I'm a little bit out of alignment right now, or like whatever it is that's showing up. That's exactly. It is telling it. You're welcome here. But I also know that the truth of my being and everybody on this planet is like if you look at a newborn and they're just a bundle of love and joy and not a worry in the world, right, they cry. You need to feed them, change them, whatever it is they're needing, then it's done. They're back to joy and ease and peace and flow, and that could be the reality for every single one of us on this planet.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is our, that's our divine right is to feel that way, is to live and be fully expressed within ourselves. But it means telling those parts not go away, you're bad, push you down, but telling them, yes, I'm here to listen to you. And oftentimes it's something that happened in childhood or in third grade. You remember, oh, these girls picked on me on the playground and you didn't think much of it at the time, like you felt sad. But then the story it shows up over the course of our lifetime, right, like they picked on you for whatever.
Speaker 1:Then something else happens, and then your teacher says something when you're in eighth grade, and then you put all these pieces together and say like, oh well, I shouldn't feel that way or I shouldn't be that way because it got me in trouble or it got me whatever. So I'll put it aside and pretend it doesn't exist. But that's not honoring it, that's telling it you don't belong here. So honoring it is giving it the space to express itself and say here I am and this is what's showing up. And once we heal it, it doesn't show up anymore.
Speaker 1:It something else comes, because we're always like integrating into becoming our best selves. But that specific part or piece or trigger won't show up anymore, and then you'll notice that your children like won't act out those things anymore, like it's so magical and I've seen it over and over again and I'm like, wow, humans, we're incredible. And we forget because we have to be human, right, we have to do all of the things in our daily life and show up and but we forget that how magical it really is to be alive, to be the one like only one sperm and one egg created. You and you're the only you, and like God or the universe or however you relate to, just the magic of it all, chose you to come and be alive, and so when we can step into that place and honor it, then we're honoring ourselves right, all of the pieces, the full rainbow of human emotion and expression.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're on a spinning rock in an ever expanding galaxy, like, if that's not freaking unbelievable, and we're all like running around, like oh, I'm late for this, I'm late for that, my kid won't put his shoes on, and it's like whoo, like let us all just like drop a pin, like be here now, realize that we're just like floating in the middle of the cosmos. If you think about it like that, like not that much feels like a problem, if you have your finger on the pulse of humanity and also mortality and the magic of it all, like you so beautifully said, oh my gosh. So we'll have to come back and do this again. But as we start to wrap, because we're getting there, I wanna ask you the questions that I ask everybody at the end of the interview. And the first one is if you taught a class tomorrow to an elementary age group, what would you teach them? What would you teach them? How to do or be.
Speaker 1:Yes, I would teach them to name and express their emotions, because I feel like oftentimes we don't know what we're feeling because we haven't been taught how to name it and how to safely express it. So I think, starting from a young age kids are already in it, they know that would be top priority.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and for parents as like a reference. If you Google like wheel of emotions or something, it gives you kind of this like breakdown and it shows all the nuanced emotions too, because I think that's a good opportunity for us to model for our kids. I love that I'm an emotions girl. I like for the longest time I thought there were three emotions and I was like, oh wait, like this is so much deeper than I had originally thought, so I think that's an amazing skill to teach our kiddos what's bringing you joy today, Sarah.
Speaker 1:Today we are living in the Northeast, now in Maryland, and fall. I haven't experienced fall in 11 years and seeing all the leaves and just the beauty of the cyclical nature of nature, right, it's just incredible Like so I would say experiencing fall, crunching the leaves, the smell of the leaves and how my children are seeing it, because they haven't most of them haven't experienced it ever either. So it's just so beautiful to be in fall and seeing just the wonder of nature.
Speaker 2:What, if anything, are you reading right now?
Speaker 1:I am reading winning the story wars by Jonah Sacks, and how is it? It's incredible because I'm working on refining my marketing and really being able to speak to the women that I can best serve and hold space for, and he's just incredibly brilliant in the way he presents how you can do that with integrity. Right, I think that's something that I really hold onto is like I want to be able to market with integrity and serve women with integrity and just keep the heart in my business.
Speaker 2:Right, I can personally say that I know you're the real deal just from seeing you and your life and seeing you with your kids and it's amazing. And so to be able to translate that you know into something to put out into the world to magnetize those ideal clients to you, I know how important that is as a fellow you know aspiring entrepreneur and someone who has that entrepreneurial spirit, I so appreciate that. So that's going on my list. Yes, it's great, okay, cool. And then the last question is who or what have you learned the most from?
Speaker 1:I have learned the most from my inner child and sitting with her and asking her like what can we heal? What showed up for us, what can we heal, what can we work through. And that has just created this space for me to be able to hold space for her and for all of the things that she experienced, and for my children that are actually living beings in front of me.
Speaker 2:So no one has ever answered inner child to that question. A lot of people have said from my own children and that's kind of the answer that I expect you know, because we do learn so much from our kids. But that is such a beautiful answer, one of the top, one of the top one, sarah, that's amazing. I love it. Thank you, well, thank you, thank you, yeah, and thank you for being here today. Thank you for the work. How can we find you, follow you and learn more about what you do?
Speaker 1:Sure, so the best place to find me probably is my website, which is sarahjumpocom, and I assume you'll write it out in like show notes, so I don't have to, absolutely. I'm gonna link it down below I'll link it down below Yep.
Speaker 1:Perfect. I'm also on Instagram as sarahjumpo and I am going to be starting a TikTok soon. So, oh, tbd, all right. Yes, so there, but I'd say the website. It kind of houses everything and that's where you can connect to places to purchase my book and to get on my email newsletter where I share tips and practices and kind of know about what's going on with me and my offerings and all of it.
Speaker 2:Jump in there, y'all. I know I'm going to Thank you so much for the work you do in the world and showing up with integrity and just being you, sarah Well thank you so much for having me this with such a beautiful and aligned conversation. Music you.